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the civil liberties perspective, we submit up and hopefully it's used the right way. this week was a good example of that. the problem is when this becomes government only. if the government, through its reach or subpoena powers or patriot overreach can basically turn and deputize lord and taylor and you're in my iphone and sweep and vacuum it up, that's more concerning because we know in countries that have overwhelming surveillance, there tends to be abuse. >> we actually saw that happen this week, right? >> there's more than just simply the legal issues here, melissa. there's a security reason why we have to be concerned about oversurveillance. the key issue here in the short term, surveillance gives us a picture of a perpetrator. in the long-term, it allows racial profiling. what happens is the public almost automatically begins to look at that picture and then think, oh, anybody who looks like that person is somehow a suspect. there's millions who might fit that bill. let me go further, what did the terrorist organizations do with this? this is a source of the perceived injustice aga
protect those privacy and civil liberty rights that we all cherish and what i would say is that's why it's so important that we as a people through our government make the wise investments. so where we need to have security and we need those first responders, we know we're not shortchanging them because we did something foolish by, you know, starting a war in some other part of the world and never paying for it and therefore having to come back here and say, we have to figure out ways to make cuts to programs because we need to pay for that war or those tax cuts that went to wealthy people so now it's time to pay so we're making cuts to vital programs like first responders. if we're weeze wise and make smart investments, we'll do the most we can as a democracy, as a country of freedom for its people to protect our american citizens as best possible. >> i would agree with congressman becerra, what i would just add, again, without knowing the motivation or who is responsible for this particular incident, if it were to be found that this was an attack of either domestic or foreign enemies,
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